Jack Antonoff speaks on Taylor Swift's "All Too Well" 10-minute version, says he loves Self Esteem

In a new interview with Relix, Jack Antonoff has discussed working on the 10-minute version of Taylor Swift's "All Too Well", and how it did so well despite industry "assumptions" about listener habits. Antonoff said, "You’ve gotta love those moments and hold them close. My initial response was to call out everyone in the industry who told me that no one has attention spans anymore. By the way, the lesson from that isn’t to go make a 10 minute song, the lesson from that is don’t fucking listen to what the industry says. I mean, it happens time and time again. Can you imagine 20 years ago, someone telling you that trap was gonna be the biggest genre at some point? It’s insane."

"It’s like there’s a thing I love that’s happening in the UK right now which has these sort of Lou Reed-esque spoken word verses with super melodic choruses that all these bands are doing," Antonoff continued. "There’s a specific artist named Self Esteem, who I love. So it’s coming hard and that’s not something you would’ve expected X amount of years ago."

He added, "Industry predictions on art is an absurd concept and it takes all the joy out of everything. The whole excitement of art and music and live performance and record making is we have no fucking clue what’s gonna happen next."